This is about a guy who recently posted a video based on “Free Energy” or overunity on Youtube. This guy seems very innovative, he builds a lot of stuff. He calls himself my video is on utube (with no spaces). I asked him for permission to put some of the messages here but he didn’t reply yes or no, so I’ going to use some excerpts. He built a Bedini SSG and showed it running. A Bedini SSG is a wheel with magnets and a simple circuit that keeps it running. This is then connected to a second “charging” battery and it charges this battery. Bedini (or someone, maybe not Bedini himself) claims that it uses less power than what it puts out to the battery it is charging. Sounds like an “overunity” claim to me. It puts out pulses to the battery being charged, and this is supposed to remove sulfation, which is why I got interested in it. I left a comment about one video where he said something to the effect that he would mount a generator and pulley next to the wheel and tap off enough power to keep it running without the running battery. Basically he will have a device that generates more power than it uses, or essentially a perpetual motion machine. My comment was that he shouldn’t set his hopes too high, it was not likely to work.
So then he sent me a message claiming, well, you can read it. His mind is made up about the world being a big conspiracy. And he claims this is a “fact.”
“The fact of the matter is……yes, they already invented free energy devices, and cars that run on water. The reason why you don’t see them in production is because the big corporations of the world either bought the patents up and threw them away, or they would have you killed. That is the fact, and that is how this wonderful world works. All about money.”
He goes on with a diatribe on cancer cures are being covered up because the big companies would lose all the billions they are making on drugs, radiation therapy, etc.
I replied
I don’t believe in the conspiracy theories. I see through them and see that the experimenter is using this as a coverup for his failure at building a perpetual motion machine. But I do believe in Free Energy. This summer I went down to the Port of L.A. and visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, which is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier. They can steam along at (classified) knots, without refueling for a year or two. They get enough power and heat from the reactor to make all their fresh water from the ocean. Then there is that Mars rover Curiosity that launched Saturday, with the rover the size of a Mini Cooper. The whole thing is being powered for several years by a nuclear generator. So we can get free energy, but no one wants to invest in it because it is so dangerous (Fukushima Daiichi). Years ago these two scientists at U. of Utah started the Cold Fusion fiasco, and had the media going for awhile. But it didn’t amount to anything. I’ve watched supposedly free energy videos on Youtube and seen how they are just like magicians: they use trickery, video editing or illusion to try to make people believe. [snip] I’ve tried, as so many others have, to reproduce some of the “overunity” devices that have been on YT, among many other places. I might get part way, but never reach that point where it can run itself. One has to be honest with himself and keep his feet on the ground, even if he has his head in the clouds.
He then replied with a message accusing me of being narrow minded (!!!). Then he brought up politics and made another accusation.
As for free energy, cars running on water….etc….yes, some are fakes,I agree, but some are real whether you believe it or not. You seem very narrow minded. You have to be more open minded about things and willing to look at facts, and do extensive research before you come to your conclusions. These are mostly conspiracy FACTS, not theories. Just like you don’t believe everything you hear on TV(I hope you dont…LOL), you don’t believe everything you hear on the net. I’d hate to hear your remarks about the US govt/Obama….I bet you trust the US gov’t(I can go on and on with facts why you should not trust the US govt) and are a big Obama supporter(who is a total fraud/liar, has Bush beat by a mile and Bush was no good either).
I could see that he was becoming defensive, and didn’t want to discuss anything with an open mind – his mind was made up. I tried to skip over the political stuff and get back on topic. I sent this:
I think we have a problem here. The original discussion was about free energy, overunity, and the things with which Bedini and others make claims. You’re dragging other off-topic stuff into this discussion and becoming accusatory. My or anyone else’s beliefs about cancer and politics has nothing to do with free energy. Just skip discussing off topic stuff and this discussion can proceed. If you can’t keep on topic, then let me know and we’ll end it asap.
But he couldn’t grasp that concept. He said
Ok, if you read the “Free Energy PDF”, then you should say to yourself, “It cannot be possible that all these very intelligent/talented people in this pdf book are lying about their devices/inventions, and at least one has to work out of all the ones shown in the pdf”.
Well, I never claimed they were all lying. I think many of them have fooled themselves into believing they have discovered something new, when in truth they have just fooled themselves with something having the apparent “overunity” that, if looked at closer, can be explained in concrete scientific terms. He goes on:
The reason why I brought up the topic of cancer, and oil corporations with driving cars with water, was to explain to you that your theory of, ” If this was actually true, people would sell out for billions, and we all would have these things”…..is totally incorrect.
Earlier I had said that IF the plans for a free energy device for sale on the net actually worked, the seller would not need to sell the plans, he would be developing a large working model with which he would be able to make a fortune, and he wouldn’t be selling it on the net. I really didn’t intend it to be misinterpreted as “selling out for billions”. Then he goes on with the paranoid conspiracy theory, accusing me of not knowing what’s going on. The patents bought up and discarded refers to the guy who invented car that ran on water, but supposedly the big corporations conspired to hide it by buying up all knowledge of it and getting rid of that knowledge.
I already explained to you why we do not have these things, and why patents are bought up and discarded. It is all about control and money. Very simple to understand. The problem is that you are thinking from the aspect of a nice guy point of view(Like me), but you have to realize that not everyone is nice and willing to help others live a longer, simpler, and more prosperous life. As a matter of fact, they could care less about you, or your family. The world as it currently is, is not a pretty place. I know what goes on. I have had friends in very high places that told me stories that you would never believe. I know what people are capable of. As long as there are scumbags that crave power, control, and money…..the world will never be right.
I hadn’t told him that earlier this year I read the book “Internal Combustion” by Edwin Black. I hadn’t told him that I’m fully aware of what lengths corporations will go to to manipulate the world to their advantage. This historical book is very well researched, and I recommend it. You can read more about it here. Back to his message. Basically he’s saying that he later makes up his mind about whether or not what he has discovered is going to be accepted by him as ‘fact’. In other words he is going to accept it and exclude any other theories or explanations (now who is being narrow minded??). The part where he declares them to be absolutes: “no one..” and “anything..” shows he is going to close his mind to other theories – there’s no room in his mind for any explanation other than his own narrow point of view.
One thing I’d like to point out. One can view this so-called fact as meaning that if I invent a car that runs on water, I will be forced by “them” to conceal it, or else be eliminated. Therefore for fear of danger, I will not attempt to build one. (this is the close minded, circular defeatist attitude.) Or instead, one could view this as an opportunity to reinvent the car that runs on water, and since no one knows about this but a few inventors who have been silenced and made to look like fools, I could take credit for saving the world from “Big Oil” and be a megahero. His message continues:
Listen, no one knows the truth about anything that is currently going on, or has gone on in the past. We are simply told a story and expected to believe it as the truth. I don’t just believe everyone/anything. I investigate first, then make up my mind later. Even then, there is still no guarantee if you will get the true story.
And this is after he has accused me of being narrow minded. “The pot calling the kettle black.” But he’s not leaving it at that. He then accuses me of being gullible. And yes, he is wrong as he said.
You just seem like a really easy person to pull something over on. Really gullible(This is the part that tied to politics), but I could be wrong. Anyways……I’m too busy for all this messaging, so I’ll read your next email, then call it quits. I’m currently working on Charles Flynn’s permanent magnet generator. If it is successful, you’ll see it online.
In the end he decides he doesn’t want to listen to reason and his mind is made up, there will be no further discussion. I haven’t replied back. Trying to get someone like this to be open minded is futile. Their mind is made up with their set of ‘facts’ and if someone else tries to explain something to them, they just get defensive and accuse that someone of being narrow minded. They are all talk and refuse to listen. I haven’t made up my mind as whether or not I should reply back (he avoided answering the question I asked). It may be wiser to just skip anything further and end it there. My guess is that all of the projects he builds keeps his mind occupied with those, so he has little time to think about things that I brought up. And this discussion is apparently taking him away from the workbench, where he is spending most of his time. He seems to be intelligent, but the stuff he espouses leave me, or any other reader for that matter, wondering what’s with his conspiracy theories (or facts as he calls them). It’s too bad, because the guy has a lot of energy to direct at creating things (see his videos for some of the things he’s made). This inability to escape from this defeatist thinking will likely doom him to follow others and not break out to think about creating something on his own, something that might be innovative and new. This circular defeatist thinking seems to plague most of us much of the time.
Back to experimenting.