{"id":7796,"date":"2013-06-27T13:12:20","date_gmt":"2013-06-27T20:12:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=7796"},"modified":"2013-07-11T05:49:15","modified_gmt":"2013-07-11T12:49:15","slug":"2013-06-27-when-and-when-not-to-use-a-joule-thief","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=7796","title":{"rendered":"2013-06-27 When And When Not To Use A Joule Thief"},"content":{"rendered":"

I have often seen the conventional Joule Thief circuit used in situations where it is a poor choice – there could be better choices that would do the job.<\/p>\n

The Joule Thief or blocking oscillator circuit transfers a low voltage, high current input to a higher voltage, lower current output, with a low efficiency and high losses.\u00a0 It’s a very simple circuit but has serious deficiencies.\u00a0 The typical Joule Thief’s input voltage will be 1.5VDC and the output load will be one LED (or 2 or more LEDs in parallel).\u00a0 The output voltage will be below 5VDC.\u00a0 The parts numbers I have given are for through hole transistors; if you want to use surface mount parts you can also find equivalents for them.<\/p>\n

A Joule Thief with a 1k resistor and a small transistor, known as a ‘small signal’ transistor will put out up to 100 milliwatts to a standard 5mm diameter white or blue LED.\u00a0 The power can be reduced by increasing the base resistor from 1000 ohms to 3300, 4700, 10000, or more ohms, and the power to the LED will be reduced along with lower battery current and longer battery life.<\/p>\n

If you use a 2N4401, PN2222A, BC337-25, the LED will get about 20 mA or 66 milliwatts with a fresh 1.5V battery.\u00a0 If you use a 2N3904, BC547 or similar transistor, expect to get less than 50 milliwatts, maybe only 30 or 40.\u00a0 The LED will not be as bright.<\/p>\n

The Joule Thief circuit puts a heavy demand on the transistor for high current at very low voltage.\u00a0 It has a difficult job driving a single LED.\u00a0 If you want to drive a larger LED or two or more standard LEDs with more than 100 milliwatts, then you will need a higher current transistor specially made for switching very high current at very low voltage.\u00a0 Some common ones are 2SC2500, 2SD5041, KSD5041, ZTX1048A, NTE11, SS8050.<\/p>\n

Solar Photovoltaic Cell And Other Low V Sources<\/h3>\n

One example of a low voltage source to which a Joule thief might be applied is a solar cell, or solar PV cell.\u00a0 The typical single solar cell puts out a maximum of about a half volt no load and somewhat lower, maybe 0.45 volts with a load.\u00a0 The typical silicon BJT (bipolar junction transistor) takes more than this to start, so using a regular transistor is not a solution.\u00a0 The best solution is to put at least two of the PV cells in series to get a higher voltage, with three or more giving the better efficiency.\u00a0 Even so, using a Joule Thief will lower the efficiency to about 50%, which is excessively high loss.\u00a0 It would be best to use several cells to get 3, 6, or more volts.\u00a0 For best efficiency it is best to do the conversion as close as possible to the cells and run the higher voltage to the load, which saves on the heavier wire that would otherwise be needed.<\/p>\n

If additional cells are not possible, then the best way to up-convert a half volt is to use\u00a0 high current\u00a0MOSFET transistors.\u00a0 A germanium transistor can be used to get enough voltage to start up the circuit, then the operation can be done with the MOSFETs.<\/p>\n

Higher Supply Voltage<\/strong><\/p>\n

If the supply voltage is higher than 1.5V, then the Joule Thief may not be the best solution.\u00a0 The conventional Joule thief wastes about half of the power, so if you can use the supply voltage directly without the Joule Thief,\u00a0 it can double the battery life.\u00a0 If the supply voltage is above 3.5 volts, then the LED may be connected directly to the supply with just a simple current limiting resistor.\u00a0 This will save batteries, it will save electronics and the LED will do just as good a job of illumination.\u00a0 The best supply would have three 1.5V cells in series for 4.5V, or four rechargeable cells for 4.8 to 5 volts.\u00a0 Each LED would need a resistor that drops about 1V at 20 milliamps, or\u00a0 50 ohms.\u00a0 Close values commonly available are 51 ohms or 47 ohms, 1\/4 watt.\u00a0 When the battery voltage drops\u00a0 because of multiple LEDs connected to the same battery, this resistance may have to be reduced to maintain the 20 mA through the LEDs.<\/p>\n

If the supply voltage is above about 6 or 7 volts and you use a coil with a 1 to 1 turns ratio, the supply voltage will be too high for the transistor.\u00a0 It is necessary to reduce the number of turns on the feedback winding to half the number of turns of the primary.\u00a0 The supply voltage can then be up to about 12 to 14 volts DC.\u00a0 But obviously the total voltage across the LED(s) would be higher than 3.3 volts, so to conform to the rule that the supply voltage must be less than the total voltage across the LED(s), there must be at least 5 LEDs in series.\u00a0 If this sounds confusing, just remember that if the supply voltage is greater than the\u00a0 total forward voltage of the LEDs, they will light up without the Joule Thief circuit, and since the LED(s) connect to the supply through the coil winding with very low resistance, excessively high current will flow through the LED(s), and this will damage or destroy the LED(s).<\/p>\n

Alternative Circuits<\/h3>\n

Some JTers use a two transistor circuit that is mistakenly called a Joule Thief, but is more like an astable multivibrator, but the two transistors’ loads are not equal.\u00a0 The first transistor only drives the second transistor. This circuit does not have the coil voltage fed back to the base, so the voltage limitation of the emitter to base junction is not a concern.\u00a0 The one that uses a NPN for the output transistor and a PNP to drive the output is usually the better choice (scroll down to the 1-Cell Boost Circuit schematic here<\/a>).\u00a0 But two NPNs work, it’s just that the NPN driver needs a low value resistor to supply the base drive current to the output transistor, where the PNP driver supplies the current, so no resistor is needed – but one is often used.<\/p>\n

This circuit can be rearranged so that both transistors drive the coil, and the load is more evenly distributed.\u00a0 The coil uses the two windings of the conventional JT, but both of the transistors’ connectors are connected to them.\u00a0 An example of the schematic can be seen here<\/strong><\/a>.\u00a0 This one shows the extra turns on the coil, but it doesn’t have to have those, the rectifiers could be connected to the collectors.<\/p>\n

\"DSC_0409S5\"<\/a>Update Jul 10 – I put together two LED circuits that both operate from a 5V supply.\u00a0 The first was three LEDs in parallel with 82 ohm current limiting resistor for each LED. \u00a0 The second was a Joule Thief with three white LEDs in series.<\/p>\n

For the three in parallel the V drop across each LED was 3.34V, leaving 1.66V across the resistor.\u00a0 The LED current was 20 mA so 1.66V \/ 0.02 equals 83 ohms.\u00a0 I chose 82 ohm resistors, so the total current for the three LEDs was 60 milliamps.\u00a0 The efficiency of the three LEDs was 66.8 percent.<\/p>\n

For the Joule Thief with the same LED current, the supply current was 76.8 mA, and the efficiency was 50 percent.<\/p>\n

The conclusion is that the resistors are more efficient and use less current than the Joule Thief.\u00a0 The choice is obvious: the Joule Thief is not the best choice for this circuit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I have often seen the conventional Joule Thief circuit used in situations where it is a poor choice – there could be better choices that would do the job. The Joule Thief or blocking oscillator circuit transfers a low voltage, high current input to a higher voltage, lower current output, with a low efficiency and <\/p>\n

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