{"id":1931,"date":"2012-04-01T07:13:47","date_gmt":"2012-04-01T14:13:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=1931"},"modified":"2012-04-16T06:31:44","modified_gmt":"2012-04-16T13:31:44","slug":"2012-04-01-bc337-40-joule-thief","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=1931","title":{"rendered":"2012-04-01 BC337-40 Joule Thief"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I got a bunch of BC337-40 transistors; I don&#8217;t know why since I already have hundreds of BC338s and I haven&#8217;t really used a lot of them in years (see note).\u00a0 I have been using the BC337-25s because I felt that it was more representative of what the average transistor is going to be when the average experimenter gets hold of a transistor.\u00a0 The difference is in the current gain: the -25s have current gains centered around 250, the -40s are centered around 400.\u00a0 If I pick a 2N4401 or a PN2222A, it is going to be closer to the BC337-25 than the -40, so comparisons are going to be more equal, without a big advantage for the BC337-25.\u00a0 If you want to see the actual specifications, do a search for the two words BC337 datasheet or PN2222A datasheet etc.<\/p>\n<p>I reckoned the BC337-40 was going to be a hotter performing transistor in a JT.\u00a0 So I heated up the soldering iron and put one together.\u00a0 For the core I used a 1\/2 inch core from All Electronics, cat. no. TOR-23 (no longer sold).\u00a0 I bifilar wound about 13 turns of 24AWG solid insulated telephone wire, and measured the inductance of each at 83 microhenrys.\u00a0 I used a 1k resistor and a white LED.\u00a0 At 1.5V supply V, it drew 140 mA, and the frequency was 43 kHz.\u00a0 In comparison, the -25 usually draws about 100 mA at this voltage, so as I said, this -40 is hotter performing.<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t put a 1 ohm resistor in series with the LED, so I couldn&#8217;t measure the LED current, but it was very bright, and from past experience I guesstimated that the current was well above 20 milliamps, so I decided that I had to reduce it some.\u00a0 I put a 100k (logarithmic audio) pot in series with the 1k, and powered it back up.\u00a0 I adjusted the pot until the supply current was under 100 mA, and powered it down and measured the total resistance at a little under 5k.\u00a0 I powered it back up, and adjusted the pot to its maximum resistance and the LED went dark.\u00a0 As I turned the pot down, the LED started to light and the frequency was over 180 kHz.\u00a0 As I further reduced the pot, the LED brightness jumped, and the frequency jumped, too &#8211; there were some kind of mode changes as I adjusted it.\u00a0 Further reduction brought the supply current up to about 80 mA, where the frequency was 60kHz and the LED was bright.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusion<\/strong>\u00a0 If the BC337-40 is used for a JT, the 1k resistor will give greater than average LED and supply current.\u00a0 The resistor should be somewhere around 4000 to 5000 ohms, with 4.7k seeming to be a good choice. \u00a0 I&#8217;ll have to try a few more to confirm these results, but I can say that the results are right about where they would be expected to be, all things considered. And it confirms my &#8216;theory&#8217; that the BC337-40 is a hot performer.<\/p>\n<p>I measured a couple BC337-40s on the cheapo DMM&#8217;s hFE range.\u00a0 The first one measured over 600, the second one measured over 650.\u00a0 That&#8217;s very high, but the measurement is taken at low current.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not representative of the gain of the transistor in the JT because the current is much greater.\u00a0 I measured a few BC337-25s and they were about 350 to 400.\u00a0 In contrast, a few PN2222As measured around 200.<\/p>\n<p>Note: A long time ago I ordered a hundred of the BC337s from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.futurlec.com\">Futurlec<\/a>, and they sent me the BC337-25.\u00a0 I didn&#8217;t know which ones they would send because they don&#8217;t say in their list.\u00a0 Later when I got the BC338s, they were genuine Philips, and not marked with a dash suffix.\u00a0 Theoretically I should have received an even distribution of all three gain ranges, -16, -25 and -40, in the mix.\u00a0 But since they were from an eBay seller,\u00a0 I could not be certain they were evenly distributed.\u00a0 I do know that the BC338s perform as expected in a JT circuit.<\/p>\n<p>Back to experimenting&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got a bunch of BC337-40 transistors; I don&#8217;t know why since I already have hundreds of BC338s and I haven&#8217;t really used a lot of them in years (see note).\u00a0 I have been using the BC337-25s because I felt that it was more representative of what the average transistor is going to be when<a href=\"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=1931\"> <\/p>\n<p> (Read More&#8230;)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1931","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-joule-thief-smps-dc-dc","category-led"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1931","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1931"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1931\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1933,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1931\/revisions\/1933"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1931"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1931"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1931"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}