{"id":12221,"date":"2017-07-08T00:13:00","date_gmt":"2017-07-08T07:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=12221"},"modified":"2017-07-11T00:26:26","modified_gmt":"2017-07-11T07:26:26","slug":"2017-07-08-tbd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=12221","title":{"rendered":"2017-07-08 Charge Phone from 12V Solar Panel Using SMPS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The guy in FB group asked how to charge his 5VDC phone with a 12V solar panel. &nbsp;Several others said to use a 7805 V regulator to drop the 12VDC down to 5VDC. &nbsp;This will do the job, but I told them that the 7805 wastes most of the power as heat, and only a small amount will go to the phone.<\/p>\n<p>The others then gave other ways, but those all wasted most of the solar panel&#8217;s power in the regulator. &nbsp;One of them said instead of using the 7805, use a Zener diode and transistor. &nbsp;The problem is he doesn&#8217;t understand that the solar panel&#8217;s power is precious, and it cannot be wasted. &nbsp;So a very efficient DC to DC converter must be used.<\/p>\n<p>Here is my reply.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That won&#8217;t help. &nbsp;The problem is the output from the solar panels will not be enough to charge the phone because 2\/3 of the solar panel&#8217;s power is being wasted by the V regulator. &nbsp;The only way to get most of the solar panel&#8217;s power to charge the phone is to use a SMPS (switch mode power supply). &nbsp;This converts 85% or more of the 12V to 5V.<\/p>\n<p>A cell phone needs 1 or more amps at 5V to charge. &nbsp;If the 7805 puts out only 1\/2 amp or 2.5 watts. &nbsp;The phone may use 2.5W or more just to keep the phone service, WiFi and CPU running even when it&#8217;s not being used. &nbsp;With 2.5 W, the phone may never get fully charged.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Update Jul 10 &#8211; Rajesh still doesn&#8217;t understand, because he didn&#8217;t read my earlier replies. &nbsp;So here is my reply to him.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Rajesh Shankhalpura<\/p>\n<p>You are missing the point. &nbsp;I posted this earlier but you refuse to read it. &nbsp;If you had, you would understand why you are wrong.<\/p>\n<p>A few more details this time.<\/p>\n<p>The solar panel puts out, for example, 12V at 1\/2 amp, or 6 watts. &nbsp;This can be converted with a switching DC to DC converter to 5 volts at about 1 amp. &nbsp;That&#8217;s just enough to charge the phone.<\/p>\n<p>Instead you say to save money, use a 7805. &nbsp;So the 12V at 1\/2 amp from the solar panel comes into the 7805, and the regulator drops 7 volts, and 5 volts at less than 1\/2 amp comes out to the phone. &nbsp;A small amount of current is used by the 7805.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>5 volts at 0.48 amp is 2.4 watts. &nbsp;That much current may be used by the phone to keep the phone service, WiFi, Bluetooth and CPU running while it&#8217;s trying to charge. &nbsp;Instead of charging in an hour or so, the phone may take all day to charge, or may never get fully charged.<\/p>\n<p>And this is because your 7805 is wasting more than half of the solar panel&#8217;s power as heat! &nbsp;So now you have saved money with the 7805, and you have to buy a much larger solar panel to fully charge the phone. &nbsp;You have saved a little and spent much more.<\/p>\n<p>Now that you understand, do you still believe the 7805 is the best choice?&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The guy in FB group asked how to charge his 5VDC phone with a 12V solar panel. &nbsp;Several others said to use a 7805 V regulator to drop the 12VDC down to 5VDC. &nbsp;This will do the job, but I told them that the 7805 wastes most of the power as heat, and only a<a href=\"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=12221\"> <\/p>\n<p> (Read More&#8230;)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12221","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12221","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12221"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12221\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12233,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12221\/revisions\/12233"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12221"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12221"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12221"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}