{"id":11919,"date":"2017-04-27T23:22:18","date_gmt":"2017-04-28T06:22:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=11919"},"modified":"2017-05-08T00:39:03","modified_gmt":"2017-05-08T07:39:03","slug":"2017-04-27-superregen-fm-bcb-receiver","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=11919","title":{"rendered":"2017-04-27 Superregen FM BCB Receiver"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I built this superregenerative FM broadcast band receiver today. &nbsp;This circuit is similar to the one&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.leradiodisophie.it\/Superregen-01.html\">I posted on January 22<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"img_container_4\" class=\"img_container\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/aviary-image-1493536626401.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/aviary-image-1493536626401.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-11939 alignnone size-full\" width=\"1024\" height=\"790\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/aviary-image-1493536626401.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/aviary-image-1493536626401-300x231.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/aviary-image-1493536626401-768x593.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Here is a list of parts values I used:<\/p>\n<p>ANT &#8211; 12 cm insulated wire connected through 10 pF capacitor to FET source.<\/p>\n<p>C4 &#8211; two 2.2 nF MLCCs from + to ground plane ( I built this on a small piece of copper circuit board.)<\/p>\n<p>C5 &#8211; 18 pF silver mica capacitor&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>C6 &#8211; not used &#8211; replaced with a jumper.<\/p>\n<p>C7 (A and B) &#8211; two 0.2 to 5 pF plastic variable capacitors&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>C3 &#8211; 10 pF silver mica capacitor<\/p>\n<p>R1 &#8211; 10k 5% carbon film resistor (May 7 I changed this to 3.3k, then 2.2k.)<\/p>\n<p>R3 &#8211; 2.7 M 5% carbon film resistor&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>R4 &#8211; 22k 5% carbon film resistor, later reduced to 11k to help make earphone louder.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Q1 &#8211; 2N3819 VHF JFET, later BF256 and BF244.<\/p>\n<p>Q2 &#8211; C9018 high gain low noise NPN BJT similar to MPSA18.<\/p>\n<p>L1 &#8211; 6 turns 20 AWG bare copper wire wound on drill bit shank, appx 6mm ID. &nbsp;Coil stretched so it measured appx 120 nH.<\/p>\n<p>L2 &#8211; 6 turns 24 AWG solid insulated wire on a FT37-43 toroid core, measured 14 uH, later rewound to 33 uH, cut back to 25 uH.<\/p>\n<p>(Some of following copied from FB post)<\/p>\n<p>My Superregen won&#8217;t quench. &nbsp;I built the circuit found here, with a few changes.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vk2zay.net\/article\/129\">http:\/\/www.vk2zay.net\/article\/129<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I used a 2N3819 for Q1, and a FT37-43 for L2, measuring 14 uH. &nbsp;At the end in his notes he gave some limits to the values of some parts, and the values I used seem to be within the limits.<\/p>\n<p>For an antenna I connected a short 12 cm length of wire to the FET&#8217;s source, as he recommended. &nbsp;The coil is 6 turns of 20 AWG bare copper wire, wound on a drill bit shank, and spread out untl it measured about 120 nanohenrys. &nbsp;I used an 18 pF silver mica capacitor and two 0.2 to 5 pF variable capacitors in parallel with the coil.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;I used a dip meter to tune the coil and capacitors to a point within the FM broadcast band. &nbsp;I measure a little over 2 volts at the source, so the JFET is conducting in the linear region.<\/p>\n<p>I used a scope to check the R1 &#8211; C1 point and I see no oscillations. &nbsp;I&#8217;m using 9VDC regulated for the supply. &nbsp;I connected the Q2 output to an amplifier and I get noise like a hiss but no stations. &nbsp;I can hear my cell phone burps loudly, and hum if I touch points in the circuit. &nbsp;So I&#8217;m fairly confident that I have the circuit set up properly &nbsp;&#8211; no major malfunctions.<\/p>\n<p>I just thought of one thing I can do. &nbsp;I can put the circuit on a variable supply and try various supply voltages. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll try that and update this.<\/p>\n<p>Update evening until 1:30 AM &#8211; I experimented with several different parts. &nbsp;I put it on a variable supply and it seemed to do a little bit better at 6 volts. &nbsp;At the beginning of this session I could receive only a single FM station, one that&#8217;s very close and powerful. &nbsp;This was with the 12 cm wire connected through a 10 pF capacitor to the source. &nbsp;I couldn&#8217;t hear any other stations.<\/p>\n<p>I removed the L2 and rewound it, so it has 9 turns on the FT37-43 core and measured 33 uH. &nbsp;The audio seemed to be louder. &nbsp;But as I tune, the audio is garbled, seems that the level is too high for the audio amplifier I&#8217;m using. &nbsp;Still only one station. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I moved &#8216;center tap&#8217; one turn closer to the positive end of the tank coil. &nbsp;I also spread the turns a bit, and adjusted the variable capacitors a lot. &nbsp;I think the coil could be longer and lower inductance so it will cover the high end of the FM band.<\/p>\n<p>I searched online for more information about this regen design. &nbsp;I found another builder&#8217;s story of the problems he had with his regen. &nbsp;He used too much bypassing capacitance, so he reduced it and the regen started to quench. &nbsp;So I also reduced mine. &nbsp;I changed C4A and B to a single 1 nF capacitor as shown in the original schematic. &nbsp;But it still doesn&#8217;t work.<\/p>\n<p>Update Evening Apr 28 &#8211; I was looking at a tiny .jpg I had saved of the pinouts for the 2N3819, and I noticed they were backwards. &nbsp;Instead of S &nbsp;G &nbsp;D, the pic showed D &nbsp;G &nbsp;S. &nbsp;So I checked three datasheets to see. &nbsp;The ON Semi showed S &nbsp;G &nbsp;D, the Temic showed S &nbsp;G &nbsp;D, and the Central Semi showed D &nbsp;G &nbsp;S (!!!) &nbsp; So what brand of JFET was in my circuit? &nbsp;Oh, no! &nbsp;It was Central Semi! &nbsp;So I removed the 2N3819 and flipped it over, and soldered ot back in. &nbsp;Now I tuned for the strong station but I couldn&#8217;t hear anything on the earphone. &nbsp;The one thing I was certan of was that there was uncertainty on what the true pinout was for the 2N3819 that I was using, so I decided to use another JFET. &nbsp;I chose a BF244, which I have plenty of, and it&#8217;s rated for VHF or better. &nbsp;After I installed the BF244, I still couldn&#8217;t hear the strong station. &nbsp;I was looking for a possible short, and I looked inside of the coil and found a blob of solder shorting turns. &nbsp;Once I got that out, the strong station tuned in, but I heard no change, just a single strong station. &nbsp;The voltage at the source was about the same as before, a bit over 2 volts.<\/p>\n<p>So I got rid of a questionable JFET, but the replacement didn&#8217;t perform any better. &nbsp;I can hypothesize that the second JFET in this circuit with no change implies the poor performance problem is most likely not being caused by the JFET itself.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s an old saying that says &#8220;Amplifiers will oscillate, oscillators won&#8217;t.&#8221; &nbsp;Well this oscillator sure doesn&#8217;t want to oscillate, it just won&#8217;t quench.<\/p>\n<p>Update May 2 &#8211; I spent a lot of time this evening trying to get a sound out of the circuit, but it was dead silent. &nbsp;I cut out the JFET and relaced it with a BF256B, and it started picking up a very weak signal. &nbsp;Apparently the JFET had died when I was unsoldering or soldering the various parts.<\/p>\n<p>Update May 7 evening &#8211; I had been working on the 27 MHz Vackar &#8216;signal generator&#8217; for a few days, among other things. &nbsp;Now I&#8217;m back to try and get this FM regen to quench or to squegg as some others have called it. &nbsp;One thing I had not experimted with was the JFET current. &nbsp;This is limited by R1, which has been 10k. &nbsp;The JFET&#8217;s current is less than a half milliamp, so I decided to reduce the resistor to get about a milliamp. &nbsp;I removed the 10k and replaced it with a 3.3k. &nbsp;Wow, this made a big difference! &nbsp;All of a sudden the earphone started hissing like a superregen is supposed to when it&#8217;s not tuned to a station. &nbsp;I checked the signal at the top of this 3.3k with the scope and it was quenching at about 88 kHz. &nbsp;The DC voltage was 2.4 volts, so the source current is still under 1 mA, about 0.74 mA.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I can tune it and hear only one strong station, but I hear quieting in the hiss at some other points, so it&#8217;s trying to pick up some not so strong stations.<\/p>\n<p>The quenching starts at just under 9 volts supply voltage. &nbsp;If I drop below that, the quench and hiss stops. &nbsp;I think the circuit would work better if I reduced the 3.3k to let more current through the JFET.<\/p>\n<p>I put a 6.8k in parallel with the 3.3k, so it&#8217;s equal to 2.22 k. &nbsp;I heard the strong signal, but it was garbled. &nbsp;I turned up the supply voltage, and as I passed 11 volts and got to 12V the audio cleared up. &nbsp; It sounded much better. &nbsp; The voltage across the resistors was 2.5 volts DC, so the JFET current was a little more than 1 mA. &nbsp;And I&#8217;m happy to say that this is the first superregen receiver that I&#8217;ve been able to hear a station clearly. &nbsp;And after many hours of tinkering I can say I&#8217;ve accomplished something.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I built this superregenerative FM broadcast band receiver today. &nbsp;This circuit is similar to the one&nbsp;I posted on January 22. Here is a list of parts values I used: ANT &#8211; 12 cm insulated wire connected through 10 pF capacitor to FET source. 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