{"id":11147,"date":"2016-05-16T21:53:53","date_gmt":"2016-05-17T04:53:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=11147"},"modified":"2016-05-27T13:50:37","modified_gmt":"2016-05-27T20:50:37","slug":"2016-05-16-tape-wound-toroid-core-from-surplus-sales","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=11147","title":{"rendered":"2016-05-16 Tape Wound Toroid Core From Surplus Sales"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Long ago I built DC-DC converters using a toroid made with tape wound core.  The cores were about 2 inches O.D. and we used regular 12 AWG solid insulated house wire for the primary windings.  Even so, these cores vibrated a lot at several hundred Hz, making a screeching noise.<\/p>\n<p>I saw some very small tape wound toroid cores for a dollar each from Surplus Sales of Nebraska.  They have the part number 50B12-1D printed on them and Surplus Sales adds ICH- to the front of that for their Item number.  The cores are 0.56 inch O.D.  They were made by Magnetics.  A link to the data sheet is in the advert.<\/p>\n<p>I cut two lengths of 30 AWG wire each a foot (30 cm) long, and started winding them bifilar, together at the same time.  As I wound, I measured the inductance with an LC meter.  The inductance increased with each turn, until I got to 190 uH, but I still had enough wire for another turn, so I wound a thirteenth turn.  The inductance jumped from 190 uH up to 10 millihenrys!  So I removed that turn and it went back down to 190 uH.  I thought that was really odd.  I wound the thirteenth turn again and it went back up to 10 mH again.  Strange.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, well.  I left it that way and soldered the rest of the parts to it to make a conventional Joule Thief.  I used a 5 mm white LED, 1k resistor, BC338 NPN transistor and a 10 uF capacitor from plus to minus to bypass the ripple from the JT.  The LED lit up brightly at 1.5 volts, and the frequency was 100.6 kHz.<\/p>\n<p>According to the data sheet, the -1D suffix means the core is wound with 0.001 inch thick Square Permalloy 80 tape.  The case is nylon.  <\/p>\n<p>These tape wound cores work great for a Joule Thief<\/p>\n<p>Update May 27 &#8211; I bought a few toroid cores from China, and since the packages are in Chinese and they send no invoice or any documents, I really can&#8217;t tell who they were.  But the cores are about 7\/8 inch or 22 mm O. D. and are painted green.  I wound one with 13 turns and I got almost 500 uH. So they are high mu, and should work good for a Joule Thief.<\/p>\n<p>I decided to look for more, so my search came across some green cores on eBay.  I ordered ten of these smaller ones, and they cost only 99 cents, shipping included.  I think they are 9 mm O. D.  I&#8217;m taking a risk, because they say nothing about the permeability, the cores could be made out of baked clay and painted green.  I would expect that at this low price.  I&#8217;ll just have to wait until June to find out.  I received this in an email order confirmation, but I don&#8217;t know Chinese.<\/p>\n<p>Seller:<br \/>\n\u6df1\u5733\u5e02\u827e\u59c6\u8bd7\u6570\u7801\u79d1\u6280\u6709\u9650\u516c\u53f8<br \/>\ndigital.mart899@gmail.com<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Long ago I built DC-DC converters using a toroid made with tape wound core. The cores were about 2 inches O.D. and we used regular 12 AWG solid insulated house wire for the primary windings. Even so, these cores vibrated a lot at several hundred Hz, making a screeching noise. 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