{"id":10990,"date":"2016-01-19T01:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-01-19T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=10990"},"modified":"2016-01-22T08:02:56","modified_gmt":"2016-01-22T16:02:56","slug":"2016-01-19-weird-joule-thief-with-no-resistor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=10990","title":{"rendered":"2016-01-19 Weird Joule Thief With No Resistor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I found <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/-N1IvvvESsI\">this on YouTube<\/a>.&nbsp; It has no resistors, no capacitors, just two transistors and two inductors.&nbsp; And and a 1.5V cell and LED of course.<\/p>\n<p>I redrew the topsy-turvy schematic that was shown at the beginning.&nbsp; It was confusing with the minus on the left and plus on the right.&nbsp; It makes more sense as I show in the picture (it should say p=10990 at the bottom).<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/wpid-wp-1453350669555.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"wp-1453350669555\" class=\"alignnone size-full\"  alt=\"image\" src=\"http:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/wpid-wp-1453350669555.jpeg\" \/><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>When I look at this, I see a Joule Thief with a single transistor, the PN2222A.&nbsp; The schematic says 2N2222A, but if it&#8217;s a plastic case, it is a PN2222A. The BC557B transistor, as shown, has the base connected to the collector with a very low resistance.&nbsp; The 1 mH inductor is typically from less than an ohm to a dozen or so ohms, depending on its construction, so to the BC557 it acts as a DC short.&nbsp; As shown in the original schematic, it is separate from the 220 uH inductor.&nbsp; The BC557B has the base and collector tied together, so it acts like a diode between the emitter and other two leads.<\/p>\n<p>This means that as the battery voltage goes above 1 volt, this &#8216;diode&#8217; and the base to emitter junction of the PN2222A start to conduct.&nbsp; The battery voltage goes up to 1.4 volts for a charged cell, and these two transistors conduct heavily, with an excessive amount of current.&nbsp; There is no resistance to limit the current, so the two transistors may overheat and be damaged.&nbsp; There should be a resistor between the BC557B and the base of the PN2222A to limit the current.<\/p>\n<p>As shown, the two inductors are separate.&nbsp; But there would be no feedback and no oscillation if this were so.&nbsp; The two inductors must be close together and oriented correctly for it to oscillate and make light.&nbsp;  If they are not, and the Joule Thief refuses to oscillate, then there is nothing to prevent the circuit from drawing excessive current, overheating, and further damage.<\/p>\n<p>I would connect a few hundred ohm resistor in series with the BC557&#8217;s collector and the base of the PN2222A.  It might help prevent excessive current.  And the battery voltage should <u>never<\/u>, <u>ever<\/u> exceed 1.5 volts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I found this on YouTube.&nbsp; It has no resistors, no capacitors, just two transistors and two inductors.&nbsp; And and a 1.5V cell and LED of course. I redrew the topsy-turvy schematic that was shown at the beginning.&nbsp; It was confusing with the minus on the left and plus on the right.&nbsp; It makes more sense<a href=\"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/?p=10990\"> <\/p>\n<p> (Read More&#8230;)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10990","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10990","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10990"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10990\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10996,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10990\/revisions\/10996"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10990"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10990"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rustybolt.info\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10990"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}